Monday, June 18, 2007

Ah, shit.

Well, good on the goddamned Flyers, who recognized how cutthroat this free agency season was going to be and today scooped up both Scott Hartnell and Kimmo Timonen from the suddenly frugal Nashville Predators. Bob McKenzie writes on TSN:

Because of Nashville's uncertain ownership future and an expected tight budget in the coming year, the Predators arranged with the Flyers to give them exclusive negotiating rights to two coveted free agents — defenceman Kimmo Timonen and forward Scott Hartnell.

Sources tell TSN the Flyers have now signed both Hartnell and Timonen to long-term contracts.

Hartnell, who was scheduled to become a free agent on July 1, signed with Flyers on a 6-year, $25.2 million deal for a cap hit of $4.2 million per year.

The Flyers also agreed to terms with Timonen on a 6-year, $37.8 million contract for an annual cap hit of $6.3 million.

In exchange for giving up the rights to the two free agents the Predators knew they would not be able to sign, Nashville received back its own first round pick that it gave to the Flyers as part of the Peter Forsberg trade.
Great pickups both for Philly. While I'm not so crazy about Timonen, Hartnell would've looked great in an Oil drop.

34 comments:

Par said...

Are NHL teams allowed to talk to other teams' potential free agents before the free agency period? It doesn't seem likely that Philly would toss out a draft pick without knowing that they'd get more from the Preds out of Hartnell and Timmonen than a trade, right?

Either Philly took a huge chance and cashed in exceptionally quickly, or they talked to the guys before the trade was made (or, perhaps, the trade was conditional on the signing.)

In any case, if the deals are on the level, and the Oilers have a surplus of draft picks, can we expect a similar act from Kevin Lowe ahead of the draft? And, more generally, if this is possible under the current rules, how soon before the GMs shut this loophole themselves?

reggie jr said...

yet another miserable failure by K-BLOWE

reggie jr said...

hey edmonton--betcha wish u had mike keenan now huh? haha

kwyjibo said...

McClea seems to be losing some vocabulary.

Chris! said...

Ya haha i canut beleev that K-BLOWE misst da boat on dis totaly undar the raddar deal that resultet in boath playars bein sined 4 six yeers at mor dan 10 millium a yeer WHAT A MORAN haha sumhow my mane man KEENUN facters n2 this i guess ps. my brane is n graed skool

Chris! said...

pps GO FALMES

pete said...

You're right Reg, Edmonton's GM totally dropped the ball on this deal that has nothing to do with him.

Calgary's new coach's fingerprints are all over this trade between Philly and Nashville, that's for sure.

Black Dog said...

chris! let me be the first to say that the fact that you allow the mentally challenged to post here is very admirable; you should be commended, sir

jon said...

Confusing move by Philly... Holmgren seems to continue making moves with seemingly nothing to lose. Since they're still going to need a number one centre costing around 5-7 million (Drury, Briere, etc), it'll put them in a tight cash squeeze since they're taking Pitkanen to arbitration. They want to sign him for 2 million? What in God's name makes them think league arbitrators are the answer? Anyway, hopefully it backfires and they're put in an awkward situation allowing us to trade or poach Pitkanen.

reggie jr said...

who are u going to trade with??? lupul LOL

no team, no matter HOW BADLY theyre squeezed, is gonna trade a pitkonen for a lupul + pick. or lupul + 2 picks + smid/greene. aint going to happen coilers. lupul is a fucking anvil around your neck. u should buy out his contract.

Chris! said...

I'm sorry, did someone here mention a trade involving Lupul? I'd say that's a nice straw man argument you've set up there, if I thought you would even have a clue what that means.

Reggie, seriously. I can't stress enough how worthless your opinion is here.

garnet said...

Pitkanen's an RFA. Do we even need to make an offer?

reggie jr said...

straw man? oh i don't know, maybe YOU, chris wouldnt suggest that lupul could be traded, but virtually every other coilblogger out there frequently lusts about trading "lupul + smid/greene + picks" for some kind of outragous payoff. LOL

that'll be the day

reggie jr said...

ps, from now on, im going honor your uneccessary exclaimation marks by calling you "panic!!! at the chrisco!!"

Anonymous said...

Ah Shit is right! god damnit!

Chris! said...

oh my god can u imagin that wud b so funney!!! hahaa im cleerly n a positon to mayk funn of some1 elsas yous of punctation LOL

Pleasure Motors said...

Can we honour reggir jr by NEEDLESSLY capitalizing WORDS to express our moral outrage AT THE suggestion the OILERS are anything but a third-rate AJHL TEAM managed by kittens with ALZHEIMER'S and cheered on BY people the ALBERTA GOVERNMENT would have sterilized IN THE 1940s?

PleaSURE MOTORs

kwyjibo said...

kittens with ALZHEIMER'S

I smell the birth of a new hockey blog domain name.

Which team is drastically underrepresented right now?

Baroque said...

I don't think teams are allowed to talk beforehand with players--it probably falls under tampering rules--but considering the contracts both players were offered, my guess is they figured they were unlikely to do any better, and it seemed clear to them that Philly intended to improve rapidly. Philly could probably have waited until the free agency period started to offer each of them six years, but I guess they wanted to tie them up quickly and avoid a bidding war (even one they would have won).


kittens with ALZHEIMER'S

That would be a great name for a band--a really loud, atonal band.

(You guys are starting to scare me with how well you post like that. I'm surprised your brains aren't sore!) :)

reggie jr said...

all i can say is youve gotta have some pretty rosy colored glasses not to be a coiler fan and not have a gun to your head at this point.

Par said...

PM, you forgot to mention how out loud your laughter is. Or perhaps that you've been rolling on the floor laughing to such an extent that your ass has actually come off. (In all-caps and acronyms, of course; lest we forget the staples of internet discussion.)

Phew, without reggie jr, who knows how soon we would have forgotten how to reasonably debate on the internet? I mean, were I to read this:

all i can say is youve gotta have some pretty rosy colored glasses not to be a coiler fan and not have a gun to your head at this point.

I might conclude that oiler fans and people with guns to their heads are, in fact, the only people in the world not wearing 'rosy colored' glasses.

Fortunately, not only have I been shown how to renounce logical construction, I've been converted: Salvation through Sutterism! All Hail the Hound! Praise Peplinski! Thanks, reg!

mike w said...

I can't believe there's a dude named "Reggie Jr."

reggie sr said...

u shold lissen 2 my sun he noes whta hes talkin about and he lerned evrythng frum his old man. FALAMES rule CoILers suc and oh god why wont the swelling on my brian stop hurting and make me type all crazee it hurts it hurts it hurtz aaaaaaaaaaaa

The Sieve said...

I love it when the comments are more entertaining than the post.

reggie jr.: "panic!!! at the chrisco!!" is the cleverest thing you're ever going to say/write in your life. Cherish it. Print it out and hang it on your wall or something, so you'll always remember the one time something witty popped into your brain.

The Sieve said...

In the previous post, Pleasure Motors said of Mike Keenan: "I hope he makes GM before Kiprusoff becomes a free agent."

Maybe Lowe will have someone to take Lupul and Smid off his hands after all.

It wouldn't be the first time Keenan's traded one of the best goalies in the league for a couple of useless twats and a draft pick.

Stan the Caddy said...

Ya, Scotty Hartnell would have looked good in an Oiler jersey for $4.2, that's for sure. I'm assuming that Nashville's pick is late-round, which makes me wonder why they didn't try and shop them around. Surely KLowe would have offered up one of his earlier first rounders for a chance to negotiate with Hartnell alone. This whole thing wreaks of Jason Maas/Troy Davis dealings.

I sure wish the Oil had Keenan behind the bench, then all they'd have to do is send in their address and the Cup would be mailed directly to Rexall. Anyone notice how deadly quiet the Saddledome gets when the "Falames" are losing in the playoffs? It's almost as if the fans had guns to their heads, but actually pulled the trigger during the second intermission. I guess that would explain "the sea of red."

Stan the Caddy said...

I can't believe there's a dude named "Reggie Jr."

u shold lissen 2 my sun he noes whta hes talkin about and he lerned evrythng frum his old man.

Apparently there's even a dude named Reggie III

Steve said...

I think you missed the joke, Stan.

Stan the Caddy said...

Indeed, I didn't notice that it was Sr chiming in there.

Chris! said...

Ah, this thread is gold. Thanks, reggie jr.

reggie jr said...

well what can i say? imitation really is the most sincere from of flattery! lol

keep it up, coilerville. i'll be laughing while u guys are holding your limp dinks at the iron city roadhouse (or whatever the frack u people call your bars) while watching the JOFFSTER mack on 15 year olds, bragging about the 8 goals he's gonna score in 07-08

Julian said...

Well, he's got us on the Lupul thing.

Darien said...

Maybe... 8 goals is a generous estimation?

reggie jr said...

8 goals and minus frakking 45!! haha