Sunday, July 1, 2007

Captain, My Captain

According to TSN and Spector, Jason Smith is now a Flyer. So is Joffrey Lupul. Coming back the other way is Joni Pitkanen and Geoff Sanderson.

This news is good?

Obviously picking up Pitkanen is huge. There's been talk that Smith was slowing down, so maybe this is the right call. Lupul? We all hate the guy, but did we really just give up on a 24-year-old after one season? Sanderson has one year left at $1.5 million, so it seems to me that he's basically Lupul with 10 more years on his back, and one assumes he's here to play out the year then make way for a kid or a free agent. (This move doesn't really free up cap space for either side: total salary will be pretty much a wash once we sign Pitkanen.) Plus side: it's Sanderson's contract year. Let's hope that 05/06 was the aberration year for Lupul, though.

INSTANT UPDATE (shut up, it's been a long time since we acquired someone worthwhile):

We also get a third-round pick. Here's what the D potentially looks like, with the earlier signings of Tarnstrom and Grebeshkov (note: not reflecting actual pairings so much as potential ice time).

Pitkanen-Staios
Tarnstrom-Smid
Greene-Grebeshkov
Gilbert

We may still need some work.

26 comments:

SweatyO said...

Goodbye and God-Bless, Jason Smith. I'll be rooting for you in Philly. You'll be a nice bookend for Kimmo Timonen.

As for Lupul, two words: FUCK YOU.

Kudos to Lowe for, in an indirect way, admitting getting #15 was a big mistake.

Kirsten said...

My best to Jason Smith. I'm sorry for him that he has to go to the Flyers.

Lupul: Not so much. Him I don't feel sorry for, since he sent himself away by playing like crap. Smith tried hard all of the time, even if he isn't cut out to be a number one defencemen, I'm sure he did the best he could and provided good leadership for the team while doing it.

gary b said...

Lupul for Sanderson and a 3rd - a wash.

33-year-old-soon-to-be-UFA Gator for 23-year-old-first-rounder Joni Pitkanen.

sucks to see SMith go, but i can live with the deal. i suspect there's still more to come.

wonder who our new capitan is?

Anonymous said...

So long Jason Smith. You gave us your best every night and I thank you. I will miss your "Where do you think you're going?" one arm slam downs on opponents.

Stan the Caddy said...

wonder who our new capitan is?

That was my immediate thought after hearing about the trade. I think it was an easy answer before Smyth was dealt, but right now it's a little more difficult. My pick would be Ethan Moreau. I think it's a little too early for the likes of Stoll or Horcoff. Ethan appears to me to be the new "Heart and Soul" of the team and I think he's a bigger part of the team than most give him credit for. Losing him last season pretty much killed them. He's all energy, even when the team is standing still. Even though Ethan is my pick, I'd bet MacT goes with Staios.

James L. said...

Lupul? We all hate the guy, but did we really just give up on a 24-year-old after one season?

OH COME ON.

Andy Grabia said...

Lupul? We all hate the guy, but did we really just give up on a 24-year-old after one season?

BEST. JOKE. EVER.

Steve said...

Yeah, PM, you're not doing much to guard yourself against accusations that you'll criticize Oiler management no matter what it does.

I have no doubt that that fucker's going to score forty for Philly, and I still like the trade. We got our puck moving defenseman, he's going to cost much less against the cap than all the other possibilities for puck moving defensemen that were floated, and there are still plenty of Smith replacements available (well, replacement for his defensive skills, if not his leadership and grit). If we make some moves to get some offensive punch (I would have liked to see Viktor Kozlov as an Oiler, and the price sure turned out to be right, but oh well), then we might be able to make a run at the playoffs next year. If we don't, we're still better positioned to rebuild than we were before making that trade.

Anonymous said...

lupul was sad to leave...i saw him in sylvan today and he was not happy...i think him and upshall ditched matt greene casue he was the only oiler left there

tin fOILERS said...

Good. I hope he suffers.

It's the least I can ask for after all the pain he's inflicted to the Edmonton community due to his sheer SUCKAGE.

epinonymous said...

Ryan Smyth as captain at 6.25 a year would be pretty sweet.

Do-able?

Egos hurt too much?

Anonymous said...

I WISH!!
Pretty sure Smyth is going to Colorado though. Which kinda sucks

Steve said...

Smyth is indeed going to Colorado. On the downside, he's still in the Northwest. On the upside, Calgary didn't pull a Smyth contract out of its giant ass.

Anonymous said...

smyth just signed in colorado for 31.25M for 5 years. end of the dream of him returning. likely no major ufa's coming to edmonton. tarnstrom is it. only way we get an impact player is through a trade, which would likely be a one step forward, one step back type of move, as we would have to give up one of the precious few bona fide nhl'ers we have. hope i am wrong. i think what we see today is maybe going to be it.

brooklyn

epinonymous said...

Oh, for that hometown deal...

Lord Bob said...

Well, it's a good thing Ryan Smyth wasn't interested in chasing cash this summer or anything.

Mattstro Disastro said...

I think Staios gets the captaincy. Edmonton looks...interesting this year. It couldn't exactly be worse, right?

Steve said...

Actually, Staios would make some sense too - he's now the only player on the roster with experience as an NHL captain (in 05/06 there were four such players, *plus* Ryan Smyth. Sigh.)

Pleasure Motors said...

Lupul? We all hate the guy, but did we really just give up on a 24-year-old after one season?

Yeah, PM, you're not doing much to guard yourself against accusations that you'll criticize Oiler management no matter what it does.


Meh. We've put up with Raffi Torres' streaky, albeit dirtier, bullshit for thrice as long as Lupul. Expectations were slightly lower for Torres, of course (he was only replacing Niinimaa), but I think any good argument for hating Lupul (and there are plenty of them) could pretty easily be turned towards Raffi, too. Except the criticism of not throwing enough elbows.

Anyway, I am of course happy to see him go, I just really, really don't want him getting 40 on Briere's right side for the next four years.

mc79hockey said...

...I think any good argument for hating Lupul (and there are plenty of them) could pretty easily be turned towards Raffi, too.

Are you high? How about, Raffi is someone you can put on the ice at ES and Lups just isn't?

Andy Grabia said...

Well, it's a good thing Ryan Smyth wasn't interested in chasing cash this summer or anything.

So let me get this straight: when Lowe traded Smyth, you said it was a good business and hockey decision. Now that Smyth makes a business and hockey decision, you imply that he's greedy? Ladies and gentlemen, your Edmonton Oilers fan!

uni said...

I don't blame Smyth one bit for what he did. Teams treat players the same way, and he's probably just barely got those 5 years left in him. He's got his window to make his hay and damned if he's not going to make it.

As much as it pains me, Lowe did the right thing. Now I wish he'd have gotten something for Jussi and Sykora, but I guess the chance to resign them and potential ill will, or the need to appear not quite so 'the season is FUBAR' stayed the firesale.

Lord Bob said...

So let me get this straight: when Lowe traded Smyth, you said it was a good business and hockey decision. Now that Smyth makes a business and hockey decision, you imply that he's greedy? Ladies and gentlemen, your Edmonton Oilers fan!

Au contraire, monsieur Grabia! Ryan Smyth going after the coin was, virtually by definition, a good business decision. Better than Lowe's decision to trade him, even. "Good hockey decision" is more debatable, but I think it's pretty clear that Colorado is at least better than Edmonton at this stage.

I was merely implying that the people who said that Ryan Smyth is a super-loyal automatron who once took $5.35 a season as K-Lowe stood in his office and cackled like a villain from a bad silent movie do not stand up to scrutiny (and they're out there; for some reason, there's a lot of chatter about our massive hometown discounts from a guy who's been among this team's highest paid players every year in roughly the right order and who has held out once). I still like Smyth. I hope that he gets traded from Colorado to a team I don't hate so I can wish him all the best, and he made the best decision for himself and his family. But he's also a human being, and human beings make business decisions.

Mattstro Disastro said...

I hate that term, "good hockey decision". what it SHOULD mean is things like goalies cutting off the angle or leaving the drop pass when the defence is preoccupied. Good hockey-business decision. Hockness. Busikey. Something.

mike w said...

Are you high? How about, Raffi is someone you can put on the ice at ES and Lups just isn't?

Bingo!

Oilers fans aren't being petty or mean when they point out that Lupul was the Oilers' worst player last year.

Andy Grabia said...

Gotcha, LB! Whew. I was getting worried!