Sunday, January 6, 2008

Schadenfreude

So, how do you feel about this clip?

32 comments:

mike w said...

Dammit Pleasure Motors, you're trying to trick us into saying something we shouldn't!

T. said...

Hatcher's an idiot.

What am I saying? The whole Flyers team played like idiots. (I can say that because Gator wasn't playing)That game was surreal. Downie's sucker punch on Blake was ridiculous as well.

Lupul looks pretty darn loopy there - what's that now? Three concussions? (Also - do up the helmet!! Stupid pretty boy!)

Aaron said...

Besides the fact that Lupul played like a grandmother for the Oilers and besides the fact he feels its necessary to slag the Oilers and coaching staff ...

I think its sweet justice for the Flyers for having taken out some many other teams players this year with their Legion of Goons.

Hopefully he is out for a while to get a taste of their own medicine.

Its fitting that jackass Hatcher took him out too.

mike w said...

Did Lupul really slag off coaching? Not from what I read...

Stache_master said...

I liked the little evasion by Steen. It was a split second reaction, but by falling back instead of trying to power through the elbow like most would, he probably just saved three years of his playing years.

Dare I say that I feel a little bad for Lupul? not his fault that Hatcher is an idiot. Maybe he'll actually be willing to fight someone on on his own team if they go looking for retribution.

Anonymouse said...

Schadenfreude??

Are you serious?? The guy may be a total dink, but I wouldn't wish this kind of injury/hit on ANYONE.

Shame on you, D.B.

Anonymous said...

I feel bad seeing anyone get there bell rung! Any Oiler fan feeling pleased to see Lupul with his brain scrambled is sick. Stoll is a shadow of his former self, and that just in hockey that we see it. I'm sure his normal living is tough also. So anyone who enjoys seeing other humans get seriously hurt had better back the fuck away from the NHL and seriously analyze how they have gotten so hurt by some kid(Lupul) who didnt pan out in Oil colours. Its pathetic and sad to see that people like you share the same air as meeee!!!!

pinotaur said...

well anonymous its a shame when you die a martyr that people won't know who you are.....hmm conundrum.

it had to be talked about, plain and simple.
a) I enjoyed watching him get his bell rung
b) felt bad when i heard how bad the injury was
c) I hope he makes a full recovery, but I still won't like him.

MikeP said...

That wasn't a bell-ringing, that was the bell tower getting dynamited. I wouldn't wish that on anybody.

Schadenfreude would be pleasure at Lupul's failure, but after a hit like that... well, Loops might come back in a week (knowing Flyer doctors), or a month, or never. That's not *his* failure.

Andy Grabia said...

Did Lupul really slag off coaching? Not from what I read...

Are you joking? Been around mc79hockey.com lately?

baroque said...

Ouch.

Noticed Hatcher didn't go over to help him up. For the sake of his health, I hope he has the sense to ignore the Flyers' doctors. They don't seem to be able to handle concussions very well for the long-term.

young d said...

That was the very same thing I noticed. The look of concern on Hatcher's face and the number of teammates that rushed over to aid Lupul.

That's not a team. A teammate gets hurt - especially in a freak accident like that - and the general ho-hum showed by teammates was overwhelming.
Hatcher especially should have been concerned. Then again, the more teammates on Philly with injuries and suspensions, the better chance that he isn't asked to pack it in entirely.
He should be "accidentally" injuring d-men though.

mike w said...

Are you joking? Been around mc79hockey.com lately?

Wishing that he'd played more and erroneously describing himself as a "hard-working player" now counts as a slag?

Sheesh.

mike w said...

I don't like seeing player get hit like that.

I don't think anyone does. Case in point: people even held their breath for a dude like Bryan Marchment when he went down with a head injury in the playoffs against Dallas.

Kirk said...

When is the league gonna step in and do something about this? Philly is clearly following a regime of violence, (likely based on 2 things: 1) The Mighty Ducks' success while being the dirtiest team in the league last year; 2) The good 'ole broad street bullies B.S. they like to harken back to). The NHL needs to punish the team if they want anything to change.

Kirk

P.S. I hope everyone stops defending Downie now that he's shown that he is a piece of shit; the grin on his face afterwards warrants a suspension.

mike w said...

TSN says that Lupul is out for a few weeks with a "spinal cord bruise" which is probably as painful as it sounds.

Art Vandelay said...

Can a player be suspended for delivering a flying elbow smash to the head of a teammate?
A dirty hit is a dirty hit, no?

Stache_master said...

Are we still allowed to have Schadenfreude about the fact that Hatcher looked like a baffoon?

I would love to see the press conference were he apologises for accidently killing Lupul when he was trying to decapitate steen.

It's been a few years... But YOU ALL should still fucking hate Hatcher!!!

Daniel said...

spinal cord bruise

Sweet Christ that sounds scary.

Anonymous said...

Sweet Christ that sounds scary.

It's more worrying than a concussion, actually. Especially in his neck region.

I hope he doesn't have lasting nerve damage.

HBomb said...

Yeah, I don't like Lupul's game one bit, but I do not enjoy seeing anyone get injured, with one exception (hint: wears 25 for Anaheim).

Hopefully he makes a full recovery and soon. Anything spinal cord related is scary shit.

Tyler said...

I want to add my name to the list of people hoping for a full recovery. He's one of my least favourite players but cheering for injuries is pretty cold (a brief period in my life shortly the end of G1 of the SCF in 2006 is, I think, understandable).

As for his comments about the Oilers staff, the part I thought was a bit slagging was when he said that MacT just plays his own guys and then everyone else fights for scraps.

twain said...

Shitty mean-spirited guys (e.g. FCP) I don't mind seeing getting hurt because it gives the illussion of cosmic justice. But someone like Lupul always struck me as too pitiable and pathetic to wish harm. His clueless comments seemed to cement that. That is probably more damning than wishing him physical harm, I guess, but there it is.

Hatcher, on the other hand...

Jay said...

Lupul feasted on some sweaty balls while playing for Edmonton, no doubt, but he isn't a player that I hate or would wish injury upon.

For me, the best part about the hit is that it was Hatcher's flying elbow smash (thanks Art) that conjured it up. I still hate the Evil Mulleted One with a passion, as should all good Oilers fans from the late 1990s.

David S said...

That was just sickening to watch. He might not have been our best buddy, but NOBODY deserves that.

On an injury related note: Raffi is officially out for the season. He's going for surgery right away.

I dunno. Does this make us better 8 outta 10 games?

]effadams#2 said...

This is not so much about Lupul as it is about Hatcher. That hit is a PRIME example of attempt to injure another player, plain and simple.

As much as hockey is a contact sport, there is a line of conduct that must drawn that relates to the fact that hockey is a game and a solidarity among players that they hold in their hands other players good fortunes and lives.

Actions like Hatcher's are celebrated when their is no injury caused on the play and vilified when there is.

There is a clear difference between attempting to knock a player off of the puck and trying to knock a player out of the game. The latter goes against all principles of sportmanship and civil conduct.

the sieve said...

Speaking of schadenfreude, have you guys seen that Torres is done for the year?

http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5gfpxvtZR29ADlv7L3D_6SAwg6VmA

Pleasure Motors said...

I should point out, for posterity's sake, that I think the schadenfreude in this comes from four sources:

1. Seeing Joffrey Lupul get nailed. Admittedly, though, this is of the, 'Ha! Oh. Oh...." variety. Speedy recovery, Lups: people will still think you're good if you don't go into a second-half slump.

2. As aaron pointed out, seeing a Philadelphia Flyer injure one of his own teammates with a questionable hit.

3. As a few have pointed out, seeing Hatcher injure one of his own teammates with a questionable hit. These last two probably fall under poetic justice, and are somewhat excusable.

4. The clear schadenfreude going on in the commentary, best typified by the final exchange:

Cole: "Hate to see that"
Millen: "Let's listen to it" (cue slow-motion replay)

We're all in this together.

Dayna said...

It's crazy that Hatcher left his feet and charged a guy. It obviously backfired when he takes out one of his own team's top scorers. It's karma...sucks for Lupul because he didn't deserve it, but maybe thats what it takes for the Flyers team to calm the fuck down and stop delivering malicious hits......it's unfortunate really.

Loxy said...

As someone who has had a spinal cord bruise, it sucks. I still have lasting nerve damage.

I don't like seeing this happen to anyone.. but like most of the comments, I hope it serves as a lesson to that organization.

cynical joe said...

A lot like the Bertuzzi/Moore incident, I think what really hurt Lupul was when Hatcher fell on him, immediately after he lost his helmet, jamming his head into the ice.

Dennis said...

I think Lupul was close to slag territory and I know he was delusional but I still don't like seeing anyone take a knock like this.

Lupul wasted a year of fandom and he doesn't like taking responsibility for it, but, still, that's a scary hit and if he comes back now and doesn't keep producing, Stauffer and all the other Zoolanderers will say this hit derailed what was to be his bounceback season.