Tuesday, March 18, 2008

The push to be less bad continues!

As much as anyone, I'm enjoying this little late season playoff dink-tease by the Oilers, but let's not forget that this is a bad team. According to my highly complicated pythagorean projections, the Oilers' goal differential is -31, 5th worst in the league, which almost always means that they will suck (as Tyler predicted, luck ran out on the Islanders and their dreadful -45 differential this season and the team has settled back into the lower dregs of the standings after a strong start).

Last Sunday's game against the Sharks was basically one of the stupidest things I've ever seen. Dwayne Roloson played miraculously and faced two games worth of shots in a game that the Oilers had no business winning (in the shootout, naturally). Of course, the kids have been mesmerizing in this recent stretch, most notably Robert Nilsson, who seems to have shaken off the minor-league moves that made him an easy check earlier in the year. But is this what we'll be clinging to in the off-season? A handful of kids in Sam Gagner, Andrew Cogliano, Robert Nilsson and Tom Gilbert? Even with Horcoff, Moreau, Souray and Torres back in the lineup, is that really enough for next year?

I'm not sure why I'm bringing this up right now. Perhaps I can't stand unfounded optimism. Or maybe it's an elaborate reverse-psychology ploy with the hockey gods moments before game time against Phoenix.

But yes: Goilers.

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

I understand that the shootout wins aren't the same as other wins. I get that the the 9-2 streak isn't indicative of the team's worth. I cling, however, to the way above .500 record since xmas, and the fact that the kids score goals. It's not that they're playing well in their own end, or hustling in the corners, they score fucking goals. And with Horc and Moreau just playing the same and back in the lineup? I'm pretty optimistic about that.

DMFB said...

It has been said elsewhere, but let's say it again: do you even want some of those veterans back? I mean, Horcoff, of course, but do Moreau, Souray and Torres necessarily bring anything we haven't already got for cheaper?

Also: Tubby on the PP!

Steve said...

The stats-folk tell me that Torres is much underrated defensively, so I'll take him back. And Souray is legitimately an outstanding pointman (monstrously overpaid, of course), so I don't think he has any equal on the team. Moreau I'll lose, though.

mannequinrepublic said...

I dunno man look at Gagner, Cogs, and Glencross in the past 20 games-hell, look at all the rookies! We got the fourth line lighting it up, maybe subpar defense, and Garon's finally gonna step it up next year.

Anonymous said...

Moreau makes the team win.

garnet said...

Hey Mike: I (heart) worry lines.

DMFB said...

The stats-folk tell me that Torres is much underrated defensively, so I'll take him back.

I would be fine with taking Torres back so long as we stop pretending he's a top-six forward.

Anonymous said...

Oiler fans always seem to be obsessed with "next year." But the thing is, the Oilers are a rebuilding team and sometimes things take longer than a year (especially if things start going wrong). Just ask a Chicago fan.

Basically though, I agree that the Oilers are a bad team. But if they finish anywhere from 9th-11th and they have a record that's above .500? That's pretty good to take into next season. Also, Gagner is playing like he's the real deal. I don't think this team is going to be a cup contender anytime soon, but with player development and maybe getting some depth this summer, it's not unreasonable to think the Oilers could squeak in at eighth next year. Then after that, who knows?

LittleFury said...

I'm not sure why I'm bringing this up right now. Perhaps I can't stand unfounded optimism.

Yeesh. Maybe you and that Ferrari cunt can spoon each other after every undeserved Oilers victory and let the rest of us enjoy the feeling of winning, however brief it is, in peace.

It's not like anybody but the most naive 12 year old on HF believes in this team, but winning is fun no matter how improbable or unsustainable it is. Sit back, enjoy and leave the moaning to the sour, syphilitic mathematicians.

mike w said...

Sit back, enjoy

Who said I wasn't enjoying this streak?

Anonymous said...

littlefury: Well Said

Doogie said...

And really, anyone with Ian McShane in his avatar must have something going for him.

LittleFury said...

Who said I wasn't enjoying this streak?

Not saying you ain't; it was more a general comment on the natering nabobs of negativity out there who care more about being right on the internet than the team's success or, you know, having fun.

And I'm as bipolar as anyone when it comes to this team's fortunes (I think my last comment here was something to the effect of "I hate this fucking team"), and I'll be right there with you bemoaning the teams chances in 08-09 come the off season. But I realy like these kids and if this is what we have going into next year, well, things could be worse.

PunjabiOil said...

Yeesh. Maybe you and that Ferrari cunt can spoon each other after every undeserved Oilers victory and let the rest of us enjoy the feeling of winning, however brief it is, in peace.


LOL.

I'm telling you, this guy is one of the funniest posters on HF.

LittleFury said...

Geez PJO: that's kinda damning with faint praise, innit? I'l take it, though.

Quain said...

Not that the optimism isn't misguided, but the Oilers, factoring out fake shootout goals, have an even goal differential in the new year.

Still not a playoff team, but full year goal differential isn't exactly an accurate representation of what this team has been doing or a particularly good reason to throw out any hopes of a run.

The better reason is eight divsional games with absolutely no margin for error. I'll be optimistic when we throw in an empty goal in Vancouver after a 7-0 run.

Lord Bob said...

Not that the optimism isn't misguided, but the Oilers, factoring out fake shootout goals, have an even goal differential in the new year.

There are fifteen teams in the Western Conference, of which eight make the playoffs. If the Oilers are precisely in the middle of that (as a zero goal differential would imply), they make the playoffs.

Besides, we don't need your sabermetrics, Billy Beane! The Oilers are scrappy! They have hustle and they're putting up big numbers in the only statistic that counts! Those Euro-ridden teams like the Red Wings may be glamorous, but it's gritty guys like Nilsson and Pitkanen that win championships.

Vic Ferrari said...

That LittleFury sounds like a really tough guy. Is anyone else scared?

That aside, it's fun to win games, and games against the Canucks are usually good, less so since Crawford left, but still, it's nice to have a reason to cheer at this time of year.

And I haven't been as happy with the Oilers this year since they beat Anaheim back to back earlier in the year. That was heartwarming.

IMHO the Anonymous post about 8 in nails in on this thread nails things pretty well I think.

andy grabia said...

it was more a general comment on the natering nabobs of negativity out there who care more about being right on the internet than the team's success or, you know, having fun

Says the constant voice of optimism. :)