Friday, October 17, 2008

It ends...

This is slower coming than I would have hoped, but things happen, and it wasn't really something I was eager to do. Anyway, I wanted to explain exactly what happened to the live blog of last Sunday's game against Colorado, and why it means I won't be posting on the blog for an indefinite while. It's going to be a bit involved, so settle in.

First, the background: I was employed to cover Oiler games (I won't say by who, because that's irrelevant as far as this is concerned), which entailed sitting in the press box and picking up quotes after the game. It was not what I would characterize as a demanding job, and so to break up the monotony of eating ice cream sandwiches a little, I decided to do a live blog.

All went well until just before the start of the third, when one of the Oiler press guys pulled me aside and informed me that I'd no longer be allowed in the press box, and that if I didn't have a job to do, he would have had someone escort me out of the building right then and there. I was understandably a little confused as to what was going on, and after a little questioning, he told me that I was not allowed to blog in the press box, as I was there on another media pass. I apologized and explained that exactly no one had told me about this, and I'd be more than willing to stop doing it in the future if they had a problem with it. That didn't seem to help at all: he got more agitated, reminded me that he could have me thrown out right now, and told me I wouldn't be welcome back. I pressed for a bit more of an explanation, and I was eventually told that the Oilers didn't grant press passes to bloggers unless they were employed by the organization or the NHL, and that I had abused my press pass and wasn't allowed back.

By the time this finished, the game had re-started, so there wasn't much more I could do but go back, stop the blog and start covering what was happening. A few minutes later, he came back and actually stood over my shoulder and demanded I remove the post entirely, also reminding me that I wouldn't be back. I did so without arguing, until he also demanded I shut down the chat window I was using to keep in contact with my employer (I have a feeling at least part of the problem the Oilers have with blogs is that basic computer literacy in the organization seems to be on the level of grandmother with a Nintendo in the basement, but I digress). He let me keep that after I explained what it was. Aside from that chat window thing, though, I cooperated without argument, and even managed to sneak in some apologies, some explanations that absolutely no one had told me I couldn't do this, and some promises that I wouldn't do it again, all of which were met with, roughly, "You won't do this again because you won't be here again." (Note: he didn't actually say that. I would doubt he's that eloquent. But you get the jist.)

I talked to their head media guy after the game (and by "I talked to their head media guy" I mean, "Their head media guy pulled me aside"), where he explained basically what I'd already been told. I explained basically what I'd explained already a few times, to which I got basically the same response I had before. Through both sets of conversations, there were a few mentions made to "when the guys upstairs see what you're doing" and "writing stuff like that," which led me to believe the content of the blog was at least part of the problem, but the official reason given was that I had misused my press pass and that the Oilers didn't allow bloggers.

The next day I sent an e-mail apologizing for the misunderstanding and again explaining that I wasn't aware and wouldn't do it again, which was again met with the same response. Though this was more polite, and they did give me credit for owning up to a mistake, an act that must be as hard as he claims it to be, because not once to this point did they ever even imply that they might have acted somewhat, oh, irrationally about the whole thing.

Anyway, that looked to be the end of it, until it was pointed out to me that Robin Brownlee and Jason Gregor over at Oilers Nation had used their press passes to get quotes that they had only used on that blog, which was a misuse of the press pass along the same lines as mine (and, for my own interest, I got two concrete examples, including screen shots). I pointed this out to the PR guy in another e-mail, after which he finally relented: he called me the next day and explained that my pass would be reinstated. He also gave me a lecture about how if I was going to work with the Oilers in the future, I may have to demonstrate a little more professionalism. I'm sure I don't need to point out the irony of this particular organization questioning my professionalism at this point, so I'll just say that it didn't serve to allay my thoughts that the content of the blog had something to do with the decision. The fact he told me they would deal with the other abuses internally and that it really wasn't any of my concern, and that the Gregor and Brownlee articles are still up on the Oilers Nation site also didn't, but I'm really just speculating at this point, so I'll stop there.

As of this writing, I could still theoretically return to the job (I have a feeling that situation might change after I publish this) but that brings me to the second reason for this: I'm pretty much done with the Oilers organization in any capacity for the foreseeable future. Up until this point, I was nothing but cooperative and apologetic for what happened, and was met with nothing but irrational hostility at worst and condescending patronization at best. They did finally show some understanding, but that was only after I had pointed out that they were either making it up as they went along, applying an obvious double standard or too stupid to read the blogs of two fairly well established media people to look for this kind of egregious violation of their sacred media pass. And even after that, they threw in some condescending patronization, just in case I might want to chalk up their change of heart to magnanimity. I hope most of you will understand exactly why I'm no longer interested in writing about an organization that has decided to dump on me for having the temerity to care about them and treat their wishes with respect.

At the same time, though, it would be disingenuous for me to say that this was the sole reason why I'm taking an extended hiatus. Truthfully, there's a lot about the professional sports world that bothers me that really came into focus during this whole thing. I could list examples, but basically it all boils down to the fact that I'm uncomfortable with the amount of attention paid to what are basically games, and I no longer want to be a part of it. I don't want to tell anyone how to spend their free time, but the fact simple entertainment has grown to this level of import bothers me too much to continue with it.

I want to thank everyone who has read the site and enjoyed it: not to sound all cheesy, but that was really what kept any reservations I may have had at bay to this point. And I especially want to thank the other Oilogosphere bloggers, whether they were at it from the beginning or just recently joined up: it is still the place where I find the most consistently interesting, thought-provoking, funny and worthwhile writing about the Oilers. My only real regret in all this is that I'm leaving behind a community that I've thoroughly enjoyed being a part of, and I wish all of you luck and success in the future. I'm not sure the Oilers organization deserves a group of fans as passionate as all of you, but I hope you all know how valued your contributions are by a surprisingly large group of people.

For my part, though, it's so long, and thanks for all the ice cream sandwiches.

116 comments:

grease trap said...

What bothers me most here is the fact that any fool could live blog an oilers fame from their blackberry in any seat in the rink.

That someone who is passionate about the team writing for other fans is viewed by the organization as some kind of threat is patently ridiculous and narrowly shortsighted.

It baffles me that a multimillion dollar organization doesn't even have the first clue as to the value of the Oilogosphere to the Edmonton Oilers. Around the hockey world, the Oilers blogs are the envy of other teams.

Battle of Alberta alone has generated over a million hits and if the numbers on my poorly maintained blog are any indication, the frequency of visitors is only increasing.

This kind of Luddite ignorance on behalf of "The Organization" is going to hurt them more than they can even apparently comprehend in terms of reputation and an inevitable diminishment of respect and passion from their most hardcore fans (bloggers) and therefore those same blogs' millions of readers.

Stupidly and cluelessly played, Oilers.

grease trap said...

"an oilers game"

Dumb auto editing feature...

Also forgot to mention: thanks, D mf B, for the years of top notch writing. Your wit and insights are definitely going to be missed.

NotLeeFogolin said...

I can certainly empathize with your feelings re: "I'm uncomfortable with the amount of attention paid to what are basically games, and I no longer want to be a part of it."

The truth is that the sort of post-postmodern literary writing that you practice(d) on this blog, and that is practiced in other spots throughout the oilogosphere, has a very small audience. The Oilers, for obvious financial reasons, have never and will never cater to this demographic. At least not until such time that player salaries fall somewhere in the 20-30k per annum range. The truth is that most people actually want the Dan Tencer-style mouthpiece bullshit: just the facts, and don't get too fancy with the presentation.

There are communities who are much more deserving of your talent. I think you're wise to focus your attention elsewhere.

Showerhead said...

Wow. I am sorry that you were treated so poorly and am sad to see a great writer throw in the Oil-covered towel. How quickly your mood must have changed between minding your own business in the press box and being ungraciously lectured by the authorities... and so good on you for keeping your composure.

Hope you find something else deserving of your passion and your excellent writing. Also, don't ever stop eating ice cream sandwiches - I like to think of them as God's favourite cold snack.

Sean said...

Sorry it went down like that. You'll be missed. It's a pretty silly way to treat a fan and someone who reaches as many people as (I presume) your blog does, but this organization doesn't exactly have a track record of making the smartest moves. Good luck with your future endeavors.

Loxy said...

While my journalistic career is in a very different direction, the treatment you received seems all too familiar when you are doing story for "the people" and not for "the organization".

This blog has over a million page views - many from people like myself, outside the Edmonton area. It maintains my interest in a team that I could easy abandon once moving to another city - even one with such a terrible team as Vancouver.

I don't read the Edmonton journal and the Edmonton Sun for my coverage because I *know* that as a member of the media you can only say so much before someone is breathing down your neck and threatening to remove your press passes.

I guess what I'm getting at is that the Oilers organization needs to realize that maintaining the young and very technologically savvy that grow and maintain the support for a team, will take more than Tom Gilbert blogging about what movie he saw this weekend.

And it's sad that they are censoring content. Because that is what they are doing. God forbid someone mentions what JDD is eating in the pressbox.

In response to this treatment of someone who has brought so much to the oilogosphere, I propose a ban on something... Oilers nation, the use of the word Oilers, the oilers website... something...

But I'm not clever enough to come up with the right action.

crapsie said...

SON OF A BITCH!!!!

This is the worst news. Say it ain't so! I look forward to your musings every day. Your gift for writing always made the Oil seem more interesting, layered, and fun. What a travesty the organization's media reps have made of themselves, and ultimately of the entire organization. I now have to question the ingredients in my blood, as I do bleed Oil. I hope those dickweeds read all of the backlash that they are about to stir, though I am certain that such bitterness would go undetected and unconcerned for by these pompous douche-canoes in their archaic media country club. It's so shameful that the hardcore-est of fans are marginalized like this. The Oilogosphere is an ally of the Oilers, not an entity to be treated with "irrational hostility at worst and condescending patronization at best.". God damnit!!

Anywho Mr. Covered in Oil... Selfishly I wish you'd reconsider, however I know that at this point a moral stand is being taken. Morals, heart... Intangibles that evidently the Oiler brass does not have. And at the end of the day, it is only a game - A game that just got less interesting. Faaaaack!!

Thanks for the memories. Tom Cochrane's 'Good Times' plays as I write. What a beauty.

Earl Sleek said...

Holy hell, this sucks.

andy grabia said...

I don't even know where to start, Dave. You will most certainly be missed, but you should feel no regret about what you did, or in not blogging here anymore.

God, I'm so depressed right now.

mike w said...

DMFB, confidante and fellow Covered in Oil blogger, it's heartbreaking but totally understandable.

The blog will simply have to limp along, like a three-legged cat, I guess. Or not. This kind of stuff (along with the tax-paid arena campaign, vague threats to move the team during the lockout, and "small-market" malarkey makes me not really like the team as much)...

And of course, those dumb Oilers PR flacks don't have a clue.

Dennis said...

I am not surprised in the least that something like this happens.

I was doing this blogging thing before it was even called blogging and one of my earliest and favorite topics was how the media was controlled by the Oilers.

I've never really seen anything that has made me change my opinion regarding this matter and now we've got an example of how they plan on treating the new media.

BTW, before there was a CIO or a Pleasure Motors, there was -- and still is -- a Micheal John Kozak and he didn't get treated all that favourably by the Oilers either.

mike w said...

I am not surprised in the least that something like this happens.

Neither am I. The Oilers have been like this for years.

Although it's interesting to see such a glittering example of their typical double standards held up to the light.

BTW, before there was a CIO or a Pleasure Motors, there was -- and still is -- a Micheal John Kozak

That's a OilsFan dude, right? What happened there?

Mr. Plank said...

Always been a big fan DMFB. You'll be missed.

Kent W. said...

Wow...wow. Thanks for sharing.

Everyone should read this. Incredible myopia and arrogance by that org.

marriedtotheoil said...

I'm in shock and terribly sad about all this, DMFB. Thanks for being one of the best bloggers the Oilogosphere has ever had: the team's management does not deserve all the good feeling and fun your writing generates towards rooting for the team.

Professional sports management: Alienating loyal fans since the Victorian era!

Jonathan said...

Now if only someone would move them to the States, where they'd have to work for their fans...

In all seriousness, though, this is disappointing but unsurprising, and I'm just sorry it's ended DMFB's blogging. I certainly don't know you as well as a lot here do, but I've always enjoyed your writing. Best of luck in your future endeavours.

wrap around curl said...

Wow, I don't even know where to begin with all that. It is a massive misstep on the Oilers part. They sure just pissed off a lot of people.

Dennis said...

WAC: the thing is, though, it really doesn't matter how many people they missed off. For years the EIG had people believing they were losing their shirts while keeping the club in town and in turn it seemed like the city -- and especially the media -- had a whole "we're just lucky to be here" attitude going.

And because of this, nothing ever got questioned.

I said this earlier to AG in an email but outside of the continued employment of Joey Moss, I struggle to find another reason why you'd really root along and for any success for the MGMT and hierarchy.

BenJammin said...

Your writing will be sorrily missed. Those short-sighted bastards aren't doing themselves any favours. I believe that some kind of formal protest should be made. Will Staples mention this in his blog? I'm going to write a good old-fashioned letter and mail it to those god-damn Luddites. All the best in your future endeavours DMFB. And thanks.

OrderedChaos said...

You'll be missed man. Nice work, and a big middle finger to the Oilers for treating you the way they did.

Lord Bob said...

And, lo, we have in a nutshell why I love the Oilers like oxygen but wouldn't give them a centime of my money if I could help it...

Kirk said...

Fuck, fuck, and double fuck.

You'll be missed, sir.

Stevens8204 said...

Sorry Dave...this really sucks! Just know that the blogosphere always has your back.

And what they did is simply inexcusable. Good luck man.

Par said...

Sorry to see you go, Dave. Especially so, given the circumstances.

Black Dog said...

Sorry to see you go Dave. Take it easy.

Art Vandelay said...

if I was going to work with the Oilers in the future, I may have to demonstrate a little more professionalism.

Professionalism being defined by the Oilers, in this case, as "dick sucking."

CapsKremlin said...

That's awful man. Sorry the Oilers had to treat you that way, as a student journalist/capitals blogger I'd like to think that a blogger can be just as informative as a beat writer. I guess the Oilers don't think so. I hope you continue to write in some capacity.

RiversQ said...

The Oilers should have a chat with Ted Leonsis about blogs.

It brings back memories of the post-Smyth trade behaviour as well.

Staples et al should make themselves useful here. In my wide eyed idealist world view it's what a responsible journalist would do.

dani said...

I don't watch the Oilers at all, but that leaves a horrible impression. Not to mention the whole screwing over Thomas Vanek deal...

Good luck with everything.

dstaples said...

Dave.

Don't quit. Keep fighting. Keep making your case.

This post was a good start.

The blog world is threatening to a lot of folks, including professional sports teams. The Oilers will have to come up with a rational policy to deal with blogs, because you certainly weren't handled in a rational manner.

It will be smart for the Oilers to get along better with the bloggers, and the first step will be for them to come up with some clearcut rules.

These rules won't please everyone -- there can be no anonymity, for instance, if a blogger wants to be mainstream enough to get a press pass, and the blog will also have to prove it has got enough traffic to warrant a press pass, as soon there will be hundreds, if not thousands, of bloggers.

But there should be a way to have a named blogger, Dave Berry, from a popular blog, Covered in Oil, allowed to blog live at an Oilers game. I can see no reason why not.

So long as you don't say "F***" in your copy ;)

Dennis said...

One of the questions raised by Dave was how come the guys at ON are allowed to do basically the same thing.

Now, what I'm wondering about is who tipped off Big Brother that Dave was live blogging?

Also, where does ON get all their juice?

eyebleaf said...

Damn, dude. Bloggers all across the land have got your back.

Fuck the Oilers.

dstaples said...

Riversq, I'd suggest that you can make yourself useful here, too, by writing a letter of complaint, with your real name, to the Oilers.

dstaples said...

Dennis. Nobody had to "tip off" the Oilers. Dave tipped himself off by saying he was posting live from the game.

And the Oilers folks do read the blogs.

Phil said...

This is horse shit. Bush league, backwards-minded actions by the Oilers' KGB devision. Someone needs to maybe mention to them that this interweb thingy isn't just a fad. I can't remember the last time I went to the Journal or Sun for my Oil info - but I check ON, Lowetide, CinO, etc, every single day. And I'm the die hard, lifetime, grew-up-during-the-glory-years fan. My brother-in-law played for this damn team. I don't want to hear the same cliches and obvious party line insights every day. I want to hear real people's opinions; unbiased by money. For the Oilers organization not to see the value of this outlet is careless at best, and would be laughable if it hadn't pushed one of it's best contributors into 'retirement'.

To that end, Dave, I'll second Mr. Staples. Fight back.

Help Me Rhonda said...

Unbelievable. I'm not an Oilers fan, but one of the two organizations I do like has a special section just for bloggers at games. Hopefully other orgs. begin to follow that lead.

These organizations need to realize the growth of their businesses that would happen if they just got with the times!

I will add that the reasons I am such a fanatic are because of blogs and some very entertaining live blogging.

Tony said...

I apologize in advance, but what exactly did the Oilers consider unprofessional ?? What is basic criticism, or perhaps something more risque ??

Again, sorry to be asking bland questions like that, your situation sucks. The Oilers will pay in negative publicity, if they haven't already.

And I agree with some of the others, Ted Leonsis with the Caps goes a great job with bloggers. And that's coming from a Penguins blogger.

Tony
The Confluence of the Three Rivers
http://mvn.com/theconfluence

amw said...

Here is the link to the Oilers comment form: http://oilers.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NHLPage&id=3677

I've sent in my concerns and have asked for an explanation. If nothing comes back, I'll write a letter. If that is ignored, I guess a phone call or visit will be needed. There has to be some accountability to the fans who pay the freight...

B.C.B. said...

I hope for the best for you DMFB.

I am wondering if Kurri's or Mark Lamb's kid was a blogger would they get the same treatment: the ol' boys club must come to an end.

I am so pissed I might not watch the battle of alberta tonight.

I am wondering about you statement "I'm uncomfortable with the amount of attention paid to what are basically games, and I no longer want to be a part of it."
I understand this to a point: When I got to the U of A I started following kids hockey games instead of the oil. It was cheaper to watch (AKA free), and almost as enjoyable. Over the years I was lurred back to the NHL (beers at the game, cool uniforms, higher level competion). Now I live in southern Onterrible, and I use oiler games and the Oilbogosphere as my entertainment (or soap opera, as I tell my partner). I think we should all rethink our relationship to the oil: which I have many times (including when people thought pissing on my house after trashing whyte ave was a good idea when I could afford to eat anything but noodle soup cause I was paying for cable, etc...)

PS: I really wanted a new third jersey with Lowe on the back, but after hearing how you where treated I don't know if I can give them an money.

Whale4ever said...

Wow. Speechless. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Good read.

Loxy said...

I think what is still annoying me is that the Oilers Nation guys get free range with their press passes.

PunjabiOil said...

I see the HF Clowns won't even let you discuss this topic

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=563189

oilswell said...

Love/d your writing. The Oilogosphere takes collateral damage here. I gladly take this loss every time though; seems like a good fight. Good luck.

I can't see the Oilers not controlling the press to whatever degree they think they can get away with. Can't really blame them either: wouldn't they be the first business ever to cede that control? Still, if there be assholes, fire all cannons. Surely civility still has utility.

Ultimately, if the paying public are sheep then we can't really expect change on their end, right? Is online opinion virulent enough? I'm going to watch this one with some interest/amusement. It seemed to me that the online discussion about a wealthy EIG raking in money but not spending to the cap was well ahead of the word on the street. This isn't such a hot-button topic, but some carpetbombing in online fora about the Oilers having stuff to cover up (why else censor independent bloggers?) could spill into public awareness enough to see fireworks.

Hmm, I wonder: what exactly did you say or see that made the "higher ups" dispatch the Gestapo?

Doogie2K said...

If they were simply upset about the tone/language, they should've said something. I think that's a reasonable objection, since the press pass does carry the implication of professional journalism, which is perhaps not entirely in line with CinO's traditionally irreverent tone.

However, banning live blogs, full stop, and throwing you out over something you didn't know you couldn't do...that's a Grade A dick move. I understand fully why you might rather walk away, but I would encourage you to take a few days and reflect, see the support you've managed to garner already in under twelve hours, and then start asking questions. Why is live blogging not allowed? The Washington Capitals, New York Islanders, and Montreal Canadiens all seem to have no issue with this. Why wouldn't the Oilers accredit bloggers, if they uphold the same standards of professionalism as traditional media journalists, many of whom now run a blog as part of their coverage? There's a lot of questions that need answering here, and even if you still want to revert back to pure-fan mode at the end of the day, I think someone's got to ask them.

davey d said...

Dave,

Don't quit.Imagine what the world would be like if everyone who faced a little adversity just gave up.

Quit now and nothing will change. Stick around, work within the system and you'll have the chance to make a difference.

Jay Ball said...

Get over it. So someone was rude to you and your feelings got hurt. Business is business... I work in the Press box part time on game nights and have been for about 15 years. I understand how it works. There are rules of conduct up there as there are in any business. These rules apply to journalists as well.

So now because of how you were treated you not going write about them at all any more?

So basically.. what your saying... if the club your writing about actually disagrees with you (hmm I bet real journalists have that happen ALL the time) your just going pick up your soccer ball and leave?

So in the end... your passion wasnt about writing about the oil.. it was obviosly more maintaining your own personal piece of net space where you bitch and and complain.

I expected something better from you other than a rant bitching about how you treated. Every night there are over 120 media up there... each with different needs... deadlines to meet etc etc. Its a fine line and balance for the oil to try to please all people. Not everyone gets what they want.

You wanted to be up there... you should have gone with the flow...

doritogrande said...

It's a damn shame to see you go. I'm a recent convert to the Oilogosphere and you've done great work.

I hope you haven't given up the Oilers as a whole, but I can understand if the whole ordeal has you sullied on the players as well indirectly. The worst part for me is, as you commented on, Oilersnation. Gregor has had a live-blog on a couple of occasions earlier this year and didn't seem to have documented issues with large men in suits possibly eating canolis and reminiscing about the last pair of cement galoshes. One of the dudes over at ON (not gregor or brownlee) has promised their take on the story soon. That's going to be an interesting read as it has the potential to divide their ranks, seeing as though LT and Jonathan are owners of two of the best blogs around, and Gregor and Brownlee are press junkies.

To the bloggers and readers, I believe the best thing we can do for our fallen friend is to spread the story. Wherever you can, as often as you can.

I'm also doing my part, and only watching free broadcasts. No pay-per-view or CI for this Oilers (team) fan. Let's see you pry a single red cent from my cold, dead hands Oilers management.

andy grabia said...

You wanted to be up there... you should have gone with the flow...

I think every MSM hockey writer in the world should have this on their business card. Thanks, Jay Ball Anonymouse, whoever you are!

doritogrande said...

jay bail:

Did you actually read the article, or merely skim through for keywords as you media types are prone to do? Ever hear of taking something out of context? I have, and you're doing it.

Here, I'll repost the second paragraph so you don't have to read the whole story:

"First, the background: I was employed to cover Oiler games (I won't say by who, because that's irrelevant as far as this is concerned), which entailed sitting in the press box and picking up quotes after the game. It was not what I would characterize as a demanding job, and so to break up the monotony of eating ice cream sandwiches a little, I decided to do a live blog."

Want the coles notes version? Okay!
- Man is employed to participate after the game is over.
- Man has nothing to do in PB until said game is over.
- Man decides to do what comes naturally to him.
- Man entertains his following while waiting for work to start.

I was fortunate enough to read his liveblog up until it was removed. It was hilarious, light hearted and clean. Traits that I have always associated with his writing.

So to you, Jay Bail, please get off your high horse. You'll find no symapthy round here.

andy grabia said...

Here is the horribly offensive post Dave was writing, btw.

mike w said...

You wanted to be up there... you should have gone with the flow...

He he! Sounds like a real muckraking journalist.

ihatetheflames said...

I think Jayball's point overall was that there no need for a rant that points fingers at Oil suits.

BTW, I have seen his horse. It isnt high... its a crappy little car.

mike w said...

I think Jayball's point overall was that there no need for a rant that points fingers at Oil suits.

This hardly qualifies as a rant.

mc79hockey said...

I think Jayball's point overall was that there no need for a rant that points fingers at Oil suits.

What? What has this organization done that would make you think this move isn't explicitly approved of higher up? The Oilers have been openly hostile to bloggers before (Allan Watt), they've gone hilariously over the top with people who criticized the team in the arena (see that poor bastard who got hauled into the Gitmo Room during the 20 games post Smyth)...this fits exactly with their profile.

I was surprised that Dave was able to live blog to begin with and pretty much guessed what happened as soon as it disappeared. These guys like the local good ol' boy media, many of whom don't ask too many awkward questions and will just write what they're told, logic be damned. I can't imagine why you wouldn't think that they tacitly approved of this.

mc79hockey said...

This Jay Ball fellow - is he media or an Oilers employee?

ihatetheflames said...

Btw.. thanks anbdygrabia for the dave's post link. I just read it.

Couple of my favorite gems...

"6:10 pm: Months later, I'm still happy to see Cal Nichols almost trip on the carpet. Also, I thought Batman's dad was brutally murdered..."

"6:17 pm: I'll bet Paul Lorieau cleans up at the retirement home mixers."

Why would write stuff like that... while you are a guest of the team up there?

I dont get it. Each to his own i guess.

mc79hockey said...

Why would write stuff like that... while you are a guest of the team up there?

Thirty years of Oilers reporting, explained in sixteen words.

PerformanceOil said...

andy:

Here is the horribly offensive post Dave was writing, btw.

I don't think there was anything terribly offensive written there, but nor do I think that what he wrote was terribly professional.

Access comes with rules and standards.

dorito:

Man entertains his following while waiting for work to start.

And if man ends up profiting from this, is it still acceptable, and should it be from the Oiler's and his actual employer's point of view?

mc79hockey said...

And if man ends up profiting from this, is it still acceptable, and should it be from the Oiler's and his actual employer's point of view?

I don't think that the Hudson's ad on this page is real.

PerformanceOil said...

MC:

Thirty years of Oilers reporting, explained in sixteen words.

And? While I would love to have all the dirt on the team, and know everything about what goes on behind the scenes, I recognize I have no right to this information. The Oilers are a private company, why shouldn't they protect their image and that of their employees? Why shouldn't they place standards on those that they give access to?

What motivation do they have to allow someone to do a live blog (which could potentially undercut their own blogs and/or those of the media that pay for access), which was not particularly well-written, was predominantly critical (and not in an objective sounding way) and which had an unprofessional tone (while the post was humourous, it was more high school slapstick then college satire)?

ihatetheflames said...

Direct quote from Dave's post...

"I was employed to cover Oiler games (I won't say by who, because that's irrelevant as far as this is concerned), which entailed sitting in the press box and picking up quotes after the game. It was not what I would characterize as a demanding job, and so to break up the monotony of eating ice cream sandwiches a little, I decided to do a live blog."

From how it looks... I bet was access granted to cover the game & get quotes just as he said... not... to write the live blog (which was a bit offensive in my mind)which he just "decided to do".

C'mon... he abused this privilidge. It can be percieved as just bit underhanded poeple.

ihatetheflames said...

On another more timely note... I hope the Oil kick the snot out of the Flames tonight.

grease trap said...

"ihatetheflames" and "PerformanceOil" not only sound like plants, but they lack 2 other things:


1. Even rudimentary profiles, so they're basically anonymous
2. Reading Comprehension.

PerformanceOil said...

I don't think that the Hudson's ad on this page is real.

I'm certain you've written before that blogs have the potential to be income earners. Whether that was the case here or not isn't really relevant. If he did turn a profit (directly or indirectly) by doing this, it would be because of the Oilers product (and their allowing special access to that product) and it would be while he was under the employ of someone else. The second happens all the time (though there are companies who are pretty Draconian about internet access etc.), but the first is something that is pretty heavily restricted by law.

ihatetheflames said...

They have ice cream sandwiches up there???

PerformanceOil said...

...PerformanceOil" not only sound like plants, but they lack 2 other things:

1. Even rudimentary profiles, so they're basically anonymous
2. Reading Comprehension.


Oh, wow, busted. Your deductive abilities are beyond impressive.
Still, while I may be hooked on phonics, I do possess one critical trait: the ability to debate other people's ideas, rather then ignore them and instead act as judge and jury to those that disagree with my own.

Doogie2K said...

Ironically, if Dave had still been writing as Pleasure Motors, and not advertised that he was there on a press pass, the odds of him getting tossed would've been a lot lower.

I agree that it was a bit unprofessional, but if the Oilers had a problem with that, they should've asked him to alter the tone or remove it, not told him to get out before he even knew that what he was doing wasn't covered by his press pass, nor should they have continued the act of tossing even after he pulled down the offending LB. There's enforcing professional standards, and then there's being a dick. The Oilers PR flacks were dicks on this night.

mike w said...

If he did turn a profit (directly or indirectly) by doing this, it would be because of the Oilers product (and their allowing special access to that product) and it would be while he was under the employ of someone else.

But we didn't and we won't so it is irrelevant.

Paul said...

If he did turn a profit (directly or indirectly) by doing this, it would be because of the Oilers product (and their allowing special access to that product) ... but the first is something that is pretty heavily restricted by law.

You know, like the Journal and the Sun do every time they put the Oilers on the front page of their publication?

Or what about Brownlee and Gregor, who get paid for their ON stuff (exclusively because they have access; I respect what Brownlee does as a writer a whole heck of a lot, but he's clearly on ON because of his contacts and access, not because of his writing ability--not to say he's not a great writer because he is, and what the Sun did to him was a damn shame)?

Also, I think it's pretty clear that Dave would not turn a profit off of a live blog. If he every got hired into the paid part of the blogosphere, it would almost assuredly be based on his collective writing, not on the fact that he had access to the Oilers' pressbox.

In short, everyone in the pressbox stands to profit off the Oilers' product, and they Oilers also stand to profit over the product that those men put out. It's a symbiotic relationship. And if you don't think that the Oilogosphere hasn't brought new fans to the Oilers (or turned casuals into more hardcore fans) then you are out of touch with how the Internet, marketing and advertising all work.

Loxy said...

I'm certain you've written before that blogs have the potential to be income earners. Whether that was the case here or not isn't really relevant. If he did turn a profit (directly or indirectly) by doing this, it would be because of the Oilers product (and their allowing special access to that product) and it would be while he was under the employ of someone else. The second happens all the time (though there are companies who are pretty Draconian about internet access etc.), but the first is something that is pretty heavily restricted by law.

Okay, so he gets booted. Fine.

But there were other people doing the same thing and making a profit off it over at Oilers Nation.

And I'm sure there is a second side to this story, and several of us have written to the Oilers, asking for just that. Regardless of what they say, they don't have a set policy. And unless they tell me otherwise, it sounds as if they were less than professional in how they dealt with it.

Do you need a license to give free press to the team?

BenJammin said...

I think the point should not be the content of the post but the way in which the Oilers organization handled the situation. They handled it poorly considering Dave was more than accommodating to their requests. It was an honest mistake on his part and they made a large issue out of it, risking alienating an important and vocal part of their supporters. In short, their response was bush league. Especially for an organization that handles so many other aspects of it's organization so well.

PerformanceOil said...

The Oilers PR flacks were dicks on this night.

That's an assumption (which may very well be true), based on only one side of the story.

Now to a bit of (in my mind justified) dick myself, it always amazes me that so many on the Oilogosphere (which seems generally to be founded on the principles of free and critical thinking - certainly that is the implicit reason for the uproar over this situation), seem to abandon those same principles whenever something they want to believe comes along.

Passing judgment without an unbiased accounting of the facts is just about as far away from free and critical thinking as you can get.

mike w said...

Passing judgment without an unbiased accounting of the facts is just about as far away from free and critical thinking as you can get.

Dude, I'm aware of their emails first-hand.

I also happen to believe David's account, not just because he's a friend and co-blogger, but because his post was a measured, hyperbole-free account of his night.

And then there's that whole kicking him out the building part...

mike w said...

I think the point should not be the content of the post but the way in which the Oilers organization handled the situation. They handled it poorly considering Dave was more than accommodating to their requests.

Bingo.

PerformanceOil said...

Okay, so he gets booted. Fine.

But there were other people doing the same thing and making a profit off it over at Oilers Nation.


Are others doing live blogs? I know Tencer did during pre-season, but have there been regular season live blogs (I honestly don't know)? Not that I'm sure it's relevant, since the Oilers are completely free to bend their own rules for whomever they choose, for whatever reason. I think in most business (and indeed relationships generally), those that are more familiar get away with more than those that are less. Pretty natural, if not entirely just.

And I'm sure there is a second side to this story, and several of us have written to the Oilers, asking for just that. Regardless of what they say, they don't have a set policy. And unless they tell me otherwise, it sounds as if they were less than professional in how they dealt with it.

Kudos for recognizing that, and I think your response is appropriate (i.e. writing them for clarification). Certainly, if it all went down as said, they could have done a much better job dealing with things. Then again, there are plenty of incompetent workers out there, the fact that the Oilers might have some on staff is neither surprising nor damning in my mind. Also, according to some on the HF boards, the rules are made pretty explicit when you get your pass. Assuming that is generally true (it doesn't much matter whether it was in this case or not), it could explain their apparently unreasonably short fuse on the issue (and ignorance is seldom accepted as an excuse regardless).

Do you need a license to give free press to the team?

No, but you do need one to get behind the scenes access to a private company. Perhaps the Oilers are being shortsighted with their policies, and will suffer because of them, but I don't think the outrage here is out of concern for the team's financial health.

grease trap said...

PerformanceOil,

One: Being a Fan means you're biased. Pretty simple. The fact that the writers on Covered in Oil have connected to their readers on a deeper level than the Edmonton Oilers Organization is a telling point, wouldn't you think?

As for your comment "I do possess one critical trait: the ability to debate other people's ideas, rather then ignore them and instead act as judge and jury to those that disagree with my own."

Fair enough, but what evidence do we have that you're not acting as a mouthpiece for the Oilers here? You are an anonymous commenter with no history of any other writings.

You automatically call into question the events described.

And lastly, I've been reading this idea a lot today: with access comes responsibility to be professional.

On the surface of it, this statement sounds good and I can agree with it, so I'd say that in the capacity of the he was there to do, we have no reason to believe that DMFB wouldn'y have been entirely professional in gathering the quotes he was sent to obtain. That was what he was being paid to do at the time. Not in the capacity of an independent writer who posted his thoughts on the internet, but as a writer for an ink and paper publication.

When you're not on the clock, your time is your own. If he had simply kept a journal of his thoughts about the game and not posted them until he got home, we wouldn't be here right now.

That's what blows me away about this. If he did a live blog at home watching tv would this have ever happened? Of course not.

What we're talking about here is that the Oilers Organization seems to be nervous about a media they don't know how to control.

They have double standards for different journalists, and like I said from the first, if I did a live blog from my blackberry from my seat, they would have no control over that either.

They have to understand that the "internets" is omething they just can't control.

So they stop DMFB from liveblogging, big deal. Thousands of other fans could be doing the exact same thing from home, from the arena, from a sportsbar, and eventually, this will be the case.

Stopping one drop out of a thousand is meaningless.

Alienating the people who provide them with free advertising, free articles, free discussion boards, free community, and increasing memebership (all these things add up to the bottom line: money for the organization) is just bad business, bad PR, and bad logic.

PerformanceOil said...

Dude, I'm aware of their emails first-hand.

Great, where are they so that I (and everyone else) might read them and judge for ourselves?

I also happen to believe David's account, not just because he's a friend and co-blogger, but because his post was a measured, hyperbole-free account of his night.

It may surprise you, but liars are quite free to give non-hyperbolic accounts of things too. Most people (at least most of the time) don't bluff in poker by going all in, you know? Beyond that, bias and dishonesty are two different things.

And then there's that whole kicking him out the building part...

Yeah, I would feel better about that if they had at least refunded the price of his ticket back to him.

mike w said...

Great, where are they so that I (and everyone else) might read them and judge for ourselves?

Re-read this post. It's a an account of why Dave is moving on from the blog, not a deposition. Believe him or not. I don't really think he cares.

BenJammin said...

Here's the inquiry I emailed to the Oiler's organization, for what it's worth. I believe their response to it (and the many others that I'm sure have been sent) will go a long way towards clarifying this issue.

I am writing regarding an incident involving an Oilers blogger that I read daily. I am a avid Oilers fan and use not only the daily newspapers, hockey magazines and hockey websites but I also read many useful and informative blogs about the Oilers. On the blog Covered in Oil, Dave Barry wrote about an incident he had while live blogging at an Oilers game. Now I understand that he was not allowed to be live blogging there, but it sounds like it was an honest mistake and it sounds like he was treated poorly. What is your policy on having bloggers at your games. I believe that Robin Brown Lee and David Staples both write blogs and have press access at your games (and both their blogs are informative and well-written). They work for mainstream media. Do they have special permission to include the information they glean on their blogs? Could you clarify these questions for me please? Both the Washington and Montreal organizations allow bloggers access to their games. The Oiler's blogosphere is of higher quality and has higher traffic than those of most of the other NHL teams. I hope that the Oilers organization, which is a leader in so many other areas of promotion and public relations, has a thoughtful and well-planned policy regarding access for both professional and fan-based bloggers. I look forward to hearing it.

Sincerely,

Ben Petruk

mc79hockey said...

Then again, there are plenty of incompetent workers out there, the fact that the Oilers might have some on staff is neither surprising nor damning in my mind. Also, according to some on the HF boards, the rules are made pretty explicit when you get your pass.

Alan Watt has publicly commented that he and the Oilers don't talk to bloggers. I think it's pretty clear that it's a teamwide policy. Fenwick has a post up at BoA about the guy who got hauled into the Gitmo Room a few years back.

As it so happens, I have a lot of friends working in sports for different teams, in different leagues. The general consensus is that the PR guys behave in a manner that is entirely unfitting with their station in life. The Oilers have leaned on other internet mediums before - Dennis mentioned MJ at OilFans. They know that they're the big dog on the Edmonton sports scene and they aren't afraid to throw their weight around.

I have no problem with that - they're a private enterprise - and I'd probably do it too if 95% of my customers didn't really give a shit about it. Dave comes off as having the scales pulled from his eyes with this whole thing; I would have expected nothing more from them.

With that said, it doesn't mean that they should act this way or that incidents like this aren't fair game when we're talking about an organization that likes to wrap itself in the flag of Edmonton and community. The Oilers are about the Oilers - that's just the way it is. This is really just further proof of that.

PerformanceOil said...

Geez, this is why I don't often post - I have a personality type that gets me drawn into spending way to many unproductive hours doing this, when I really should be doing more important things (like working). That said, I am a victim to myself, sadly enough, so:

One: Being a Fan means you're biased. Pretty simple. The fact that the writers on Covered in Oil have connected to their readers on a deeper level than the Edmonton Oilers Organization is a telling point, wouldn't you think?

I don't find it particularly earth shattering that like minded people enjoy each others company. Seems pretty natural to me, and frankly no matter what the Oilers did they could not provide everyone with exactly what they wanted.

You are an anonymous commenter with no history of any other writings.

First, I post on the 'sphere now and then, but quantity doesn't equal quality, so that isn't really important anyway.

Fair enough, but what evidence do we have that you're not acting as a mouthpiece for the Oilers here?

Absolutely none. If you wish to assume I am and approach my writings based on the notion that I am 100% biased, you are more than free to do so. However, that doesn't mean you cannot debate my ideas in good faith, and if I am indeed as biased as you suspect/fear, you should be able to punch trough my arguments quite handily.

They have double standards for different journalists, and like I said from the first, if I did a live blog from my blackberry from my seat, they would have no control over that either

To the first point, that's life. We all have preconceptions about the people around us, and we all give free passes to those we are more comfortable with. To the second point, there may be restrictions on such things outlined in the ticket holder agreement. Even if there aren't, you paid to be there and don't have access to privileged information (whether you believe it should be privileged or not isn't important to this issue).

Alienating the people who provide them with free advertising, free articles, free discussion boards, free community, and increasing memebership (all these things add up to the bottom line: money for the organization) is just bad business, bad PR, and bad logic.

Yeah, they may be making poor business decisions with their policies. However, that is their mistake to make, and as I have said, I don't see anyone here saying they fear for the Oilers' income stream. Beyond that, while many fans may enjoy reading blogs, and it may enhance their enjoyment of the companies' product, I'm not certain it amounts to advertising in the sense that new paying customers will be gained. I.e., how many people that weren't interested in the Oilers/hockey would become so after stumbling upon a blog (and would be likely to stumble upon such a thing in the first place)?

Usually Frustrated Caps Fan said...

Having read the "offensive live blog" while it wasn't your best work and the "F-bomb" was less classy then I've become accustomed to reading on your blog... I'm scratching my head as to what the fuss is all about.

Whatever you do in the future I thank you for your usually erudite posts and information on the Oilers in particular and a passion of mine NHL hockey in general. I wish you well in all you do and hope for others sake the team you've so loyally follwos basically "grows up".

grease trap said...

Well, me for one. CiO and BoA got me back into Oilers hockey a few years ago. As a result, my family and friends are new/bigger fans. That translates easily into thousands of dollars. Add up a thousand cases like mine and that's a hit you'd feel.

But that's beside the point.

Your argument, "well that's life" is true. But it's a piss poor way to live. If you can't figure out why then there's not much else that can be said.

PerformanceOil said...

Alan Watt has publicly commented that he and the Oilers don't talk to bloggers.

Not recognizing bloggers as legitimate media isn't in and of itself 'anti-community', though it may well be foolish.

Your other statements are vague and anecdotal (though someone has to have the worst PR staff in the league, so it certainly could be the Oilers).

With that said, it doesn't mean that they should act this way or that incidents like this aren't fair game when we're talking about an organization that likes to wrap itself in the flag of Edmonton and community. The Oilers are about the Oilers - that's just the way it is. This is really just further proof of that.

First, there is no proof of anything, though I won't disagree that the Oilers are about the Oilers first and foremost. Further, I don't think I have objected to this discussion as a whole. I just found the conclusions hasty, and didn't (and don't) see what there is to be so outraged about.

Finally, are the ways the Oilers are 'anti-community' (restricting access to information about the team), more important then the ways the team is 'pro-community' (charities etc.)?

Would the world be a better place if everyone was allowed unrestricted access to the Oilers? I mean, yeah, the Oilers are certainly selling (very successfully) an image, and like many companies, that image is based on marketing more than reality. But, assuming those that provide income to the team get value, what is the harm that is being done? How would that harm be undone if some random (though talented) blogger was allowed to sit in the press box alluding to the girth of his peers, swearing (just once to be fair) and insulting players on the team? Though I understand that some individuals who go for that type of stuff might benefit, how would that make the Oilers truly 'community first'?

PerformanceOil said...

Your argument, "well that's life" is true. But it's a piss poor way to live. If you can't figure out why then there's not much else that can be said.

So you are telling me that if I met you tomorrow and asked you for a favour you would be just as willing to accommodate me as you would someone you have known for 20 years?

grease trap said...

Absolutely I would. Whenever I can I help out when I see a need. I think most people are like that.

As for content, that really is a non argument. Terry Jones makes my head asplode but I think he should be free to continue "writing".

Doogie2K said...

That's an assumption (which may very well be true), based on only one side of the story.

And if the Oilers PR guys say he was being an ass in the box, we have a he-said-she-said. I would personally like to see the Oilers' side of the story and their justification for the actions. Then we can have a proper two-way dialogue on how people can be not thrown out of the press box in the future.

Look, if the Oilers PR guy had said, "Your tone is inappropriate, and we don't allow live blogging. Please remove the live blog and don't do it again," and left it at that, would we be having this conversation? No, probably not. But the fact that they immediately went to the nuclear solution, i.e. throwing him out, seems awfully extreme, especially if Dave really wasn't told, and it wasn't laid out in any of his paperwork. One strike, you're out, is kind of a strong reaction.

Anyway, I think the real lesson from all this is that as soon as writing about hockey for free becomes serious business, you're doing it wrong.

andy grabia said...

Here's a new post by Dave.

PerformanceOil said...

Look, if the Oilers PR guy had said, "Your tone is inappropriate, and we don't allow live blogging. Please remove the live blog and don't do it again," and left it at that, would we be having this conversation? No, probably not. But the fact that they immediately went to the nuclear solution, i.e. throwing him out, seems awfully extreme, especially if Dave really wasn't told, and it wasn't laid out in any of his paperwork. One strike, you're out, is kind of a strong reaction.

Yeah, fair enough. I certainly think that would have been the more decent thing to do as well (assuming all happened as described). However, that said, by being insulting to the his peers in the media, and to players on the team,(Zack Stortini is just a disgusting hockey player? I mean really, who here wouldn't want their bosses to show zero tolerance towards those kind of comments directed towards them?), was he entitled to that treatment? In other words, if he was unprofessional in what he was writing, and the PR people were unprofessional in their treatment of him, where is the injustice? Both sides were there in a professional capacity, both ended up behaving unprofessionally; people around here just tend to empathize with one of the sides more than the other.

mike w said...

was he entitled to that treatment?

I don't know, ask the guy sent to the Gitmo room for taping "trade Lowe" to his jersey. Or Oilers Nation, with contributors who swear and make irreverent jokes all of the time (not that they are the bad guy in this by any means).

Of course, it's easy to cherry pick Dave's post (the Stortini remark was obviously a call back joke to the comment preceding it) but it's rather tame stuff and hardly the stuff to call security over.

raventalon40 said...

That's ridiculous dude. I think you should fight the good fight... but if you have to leave then do it for the right reasons! We all love the Oilers but they as a private organization have to realise that this is a small-market town and the team is nothing without the fans who care deeply about the team.

LittleFury said...

And once again I find myself asking why I give a flying fuck about this club. The majority of the fanbase (as epitomized by call-in shows and certain nameless web fourms) are drooling meatheads. The organization itself is steeped in an sense of entitlement that is completely at odds with the product itself. As someone else observed, it's things like this that reaffirm why I won't give this organization one thin dime.

Dave, teacher, mother, secret lover, come back to us.

Doogie2K said...

In other words, if he was unprofessional in what he was writing, and the PR people were unprofessional in their treatment of him, where is the injustice?

Two wrongs don't make a right. I hope I've been consistent in my stance that both sides fucked up, here. That's certainly the final word I've put on my own site.

mike w said...

Phew! All of this chatter!

Anyone want to meet me for fajitas at Kelsey's? See you in 15.

PerformanceOil said...

I don't know, ask the guy sent to the Gitmo room for taping "trade Lowe" to his jersey. Or Oilers Nation, with contributors who swear and make irreverent jokes all of the time (not that they are the bad guy in this by any means).

Beyond possibly showing pattern of behavior (and again assuming everything detailed was true), it doesn't make their reaction here any more or less justified.

Of course, it's easy to cherry pick Dave's post (the Stortini remark was obviously a call back joke to the comment preceding it) but it's rather tame stuff and hardly the stuff to call security over.

Personally, I didn't mind the blog at all, and I know exactly what he means about Stortini. Hell, I think Stortini looks like a crazy-ass mofo (who I'm happy to have on our team), and I'm pretty sure he is delighted to foster that image, since it plays right into his role on the team.

That said, again, the live blog was not professionally written. Were any of the posts you alluded to that are on Oiler's Nation written as live blogs from the press box? Furthermore, browsing quickly, the ones written by the 'press box pass guys' seem pretty MSM'ish to me, (sure, they loosened their ties a bit, but they're business casual at worst). Are there any that seem similar in tone to the one we're talking about? Lastly, what exactly is the relationship of Oilers Nation to the Edmonton media/Oilers themselves?

raventalon40 said...

Dave: Come blog with me under a secret name! You are welcome any time. Fight the good fight!

mike w: That's funny, I was at Kelsey's yesterday too! Get the Buffalo Chicken Sandwich.

PerformanceOil said...

Two wrongs don't make a right. I hope I've been consistent in my stance that both sides fucked up, here. That's certainly the final word I've put on my own site.

And with that, my counterarguments vanish into a puff of redundant smoke :)

J.S. said...

I'll admit to not reading your blog much, but for the few times I have read it, I'll step up and say you have (I'm not using past tense) a quality blog going here. If you would stop blogging, I wouldn't approve but I would understand. Sounds like somebody got pissy over a sentence or something and decided to take it out on "that blogger." Sooner or later, teams and that other media type that seems to be going the way of the dinosaurs, New Coke, and Crystal Pepsi (read: newspapers) need to realize that blogging will eventually replace newspapers.

This blogger hopes you stick around, even if head media guy treated you like shit.

Go CiO and go Pens.

JS

ihatetheflames said...

Wow... leave for a couple hours to take my little guy to hockey and look what happens.

They have free ice cream sandwiches in the press box.

Good debate poeple. I love oil country.

Heres hoping for a big bag of knuckles tonight.

Weeza said...

damndamndamn :-(

This is one of my favourite blogs ever, on any topic. I'll miss your contributions.

@Paul: And if you don't think that the Oilogosphere hasn't brought new fans to the Oilers (or turned casuals into more hardcore fans) then you are out of touch with how the Internet, marketing and advertising all work.

Emphasis mine, as this describes me for sure. Whenever I get bored of hockey, these great blogs pull me back in.

Best luck with everything, Dave.

Loxy said...

Are others doing live blogs?

I'm a bit late with this reply... (work gets in the way of blog-comment-replying) but yes. Other bloggers with Oilers Nation, who stand to make a profit off their work were live blogging.

Rock Deputy said...

they should make a public apology and offer you free season tickets for life!

Jorge said...

Press night is officially over.

There's a permanent spot on my couch with your name on it. I just packed the bowl. Let's fire up a Space Ghost DVD and get your mind off this silly sport once and for all.

Go Flames Go.

--Chris said...

That's terrible to hear, Dave. I'm certainly disappointed and disheartened by this news - I can't fathom the logic of the Oilers organization restricting access in such a draconian way. This tops the end of "heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com" as the saddest sports blog-related moment of my life. Best of luck with everything - make sure to post if you start doing non-hockey.

Dave Nichols said...

as a new entry to the stable of bloggers for the Washington Capitals, this saddens me to no end. it kills me to hear that because of the PR staff's bumbling, you'll give up something you obviously loved to do and were successful at.

here's to hoping something positive comes of this eventually.

zat89 said...

Well played Oilers. Well played.


-Douchebags.

Ormiss said...

The Oilers are a Mickey Mouse organization. ;)

Chappy said...

This is freakin' awful.

This is my favourite Oilers blog, and the circumstance leading you up to this point is truly unfortunate.

Well wishes to you in your future endeavours. Here's hoping a return isn't out of the question.

cheers

MotherPucker.ca said...

This is garbage and I really feel for you. I was at the game on Saturday night, and tweeted up a storm while there, not knowing at all that "blogging" was a big no-no at Oilers games.

rananda said...

Congrats, DMFB, on throwing overboard the albatross that hangs around all our necks. Thanks, and happy trails.

Maali said...

wow. that's... wow. why am i kind of not surprised? definitely linking back to this. thanks for putting it up.

PerformanceOil said...

I'm a bit late with this reply... (work gets in the way of blog-comment-replying) but yes. Other bloggers with Oilers Nation, who stand to make a profit off their work were live blogging.

Thanks for the reply Loxy -> I don't mean to be a prick about this, but was it guys with press passes doing the live blogs? Everything I've read (Staples piece on this issue in particular), seems to indicate those in the press box aren't doing live blogs (Gregor did in preseason, but stopped).

czechmate said...

Geez, I'm not even an Oilers' fan, and yet somehow found my way to your wonderful blog... Quite frankly, I hate the Oilers and always have.

As to the issue at hand, clearly the Oilers aren't interested in expanding their fan base. Purely speaking for myself, I believe I would know about 1/10th of what I know about that up-and-coming team because of bloggers, not the cliche-spouting MSM people who deliver us nothing but rhetoric and stats.

Shame to see one of the NHL's strongest blog-bases treated in such an unprofessional and unethical - not to mention illogical - manner...

Swabbubba said...

Ok now I have a couple of questions.
How were you posting to the blog?
Were you using your own Blackberry?
Were you using an Oiler provided Internet connection?

If you were using your own connection I see no foul. You were using their connection then they get to make the rules just like any other company. It is a pretty sweet deal you get to watch the game from the press box for quotes after the game. I guess me being me I would just sit there and watch the game. I do enjoy your writing.

JC De La Torre said...

Dave,

I'm so sorry to hear about your plight with the Oilers. As a blogger for Tampa Bay Sports, I can definitely relate to the passion and the dedication you have to your team. Its such a shame that the Oilers lack the understanding of the blogosphere (or the Oilogosphere as you refer to it) and how it goes such a long way to garnering support for the team

Basically, you're free advertising. Now they've ruined one popular source of publicity for simply ignorant reasons.

I hope you'll reconsider your position and continue your blogging efforts as some point.

Best of luck,

JC

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